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Mark: /* Current Status */

2026-05-12T12:50:53Z

Current Status

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	I would be interested in a beta tester or two who are somewhat familiar with Saturn to see if there are any issues remaining. Saturn provided many example files and I'm including them as wellI also included a couple of my .CAL spreadsheets: BENCH.CAL has some bench mark data for various PDP-11s and VAXes. BALLISTIC.CAL calculates ballistic tables for bullets given the initial velocity and Ballistic Coefficient.		I would be interested in a beta tester or two who are somewhat familiar with Saturn to see if there are any issues remaining. Saturn provided many example files and I'm including them as wellI also included a couple of my .CAL spreadsheets: BENCH.CAL has some bench mark data for various PDP-11s and VAXes. BALLISTIC.CAL calculates ballistic tables for bullets given the initial velocity and Ballistic Coefficient.

			For people who do not have access to a plotter such as the original HP7475, HP7550 or Bruning Zeta plotter, I have written a couple F77 program that reads a VECTOR.LST file that Graph produces when the output is directed to disk and then establishes a TCP/IP connection to port 9100 on a Color Laser printer or a later model HP printer/plotter like the T520. This should work on any printer that understand HPGL. The plot size can be adjusted to be compatible with various size paper by editing a configuration fille of Escape and HPGL initialization codes that replace the HPGL initialization code from VECTOR.LST. On the T520, I've tested it with 8.5" x 11", 11"x17" and 13"x19" and was just getting ready when a power failure took out the firmware on the T520. This apparently is not uncommon and I have a USB key with new firmware ordered. I have also tested this program on a Brother MFC-L8930CDW

	Also, I am in the process of testing some of the other Saturn software such as the Word Processing, Sorting, Drawing and other programs that I am less familiar with They may have problems, but updates will occur as we work through the collection of 23 different tasks.		Also, I am in the process of testing some of the other Saturn software such as the Word Processing, Sorting, Drawing and other programs that I am less familiar with They may have problems, but updates will occur as we work through the collection of 23 different tasks.


	I’ve packaged everything in a RL02 zipped disk image at:		I’ve packaged everything in a RL02 zipped disk image at:
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	[10,3] Saturn tasks, help files, .SAT configuration files and INSAT.CMD to install Saturn software and STARTSAT.CMD to be called by your user boot startup command file.		[10,3] Saturn tasks, help files, .SAT configuration files and INSAT.CMD to install Saturn software and STARTSAT.CMD to be called by your user boot startup command file.
	[10,4] Example Spreadsheets .CAL, Spreadsheet command files .CCL, Graphics files .GCL, vector images .GDF, word processing docs .WPS		[10,4] Example Spreadsheets .CAL, Spreadsheet command files .CCL, Graphics files .GCL, vector images .GDF, word processing docs .WPS
	[10,5] ~~More~~ example files including vector images of all U.S. States with their county outlines. ~~Many~~ more Saturn Calc command files		[10,5] Many more example files from a VAX/VMS Saturn distribution including vector images of all U.S. States with their county outlines. Also, many more Saturn Calc command files


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	One of the Saturn tools is a database task, SDB.tsk It is missing from all the Saturn distributions I have found so far. If anyone finds a copy of it, please let me know. There are some other software archeologists working to recover the RT-11 / TSX version of Saturn Calc and WPS. It sounds like they have those two parts running under TSX.		One of the Saturn tools is a database task, SDB.tsk It is missing from all the Saturn distributions I have found so far. If anyone finds a copy of it, please let me know. There are some other software archeologists working to recover the RT-11 / TSX version of Saturn Calc and WPS. It sounds like they have those two parts running under TSX.
	The drawing program GCU.TSK had not been hacked/zapped correctly and that is now fixed. The updated GCU.DSK is available at RDP1::[DECNET]GCU.TSK It will be added to the RL01 disk image at this web site when I get back home on May 7, 2026.

Mark: /* Current Status */

2026-05-10T19:04:41Z

Current Status

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	Also, I am in the process of testing some of the other Saturn software such as the Word Processing, Sorting, Drawing and other programs that I am less familiar with They may have problems, but updates will occur as we work through the collection of 23 different tasks.		Also, I am in the process of testing some of the other Saturn software such as the Word Processing, Sorting, Drawing and other programs that I am less familiar with They may have problems, but updates will occur as we work through the collection of 23 different tasks.

	This distribution contains in total about ~~7500~~ blocks in ~~190~~ files.		I’ve packaged everything in a RL02 zipped disk image at:

			[ http://rsx11m.com/w/index.php?title=Category:Downloads ] Saturn Software RL02 Disk image .zip download


			This distribution on a RL02 disk image has been updated and now contains in total about 10600 blocks in 304 files in three directories.

			The directories contain:
			[10,3] Saturn tasks, help files, .SAT configuration files and INSAT.CMD to install Saturn software and STARTSAT.CMD to be called by your user boot startup command file.
			[10,4] Example Spreadsheets .CAL, Spreadsheet command files .CCL, Graphics files .GCL, vector images .GDF, word processing docs .WPS
			[10,5] More example files including vector images of all U.S. States with their county outlines. Many more Saturn Calc command files


	If you have an RSX system on HECnet, you can NFT the Saturn files from RDP1:: (30.11) them back to your system.		If you have an RSX system on HECnet, you can NFT the Saturn files from RDP1:: (30.11) them back to your system.

	>NFT =RDP1::./LO		>NFT =RDP1::./LO

	~~I’ve also packaged everything in a RL02 zipped disk image at:~~

	~~[ http://rsx11m.com/w/index.php?title=Category:Downloads ] Saturn Software RL02 Disk image .zip download~~

	that can be downloaded with wget to a PiDP-11/70 or QBone. Then just unzip and attach the RL02 disk image to a rl device in simh.		that can be downloaded with wget to a PiDP-11/70 or QBone. Then just unzip and attach the RL02 disk image to a rl device in simh.

Mark: /* Overview of Saturn Graph */

2026-05-08T03:39:01Z

Overview of Saturn Graph

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	[[File:SIGDEV.jpg\|thumb \| Graphic Device Definition Screen]]		[[File:SIGDEV.jpg\|thumb \| Graphic Device Definition Screen]]

	[[File:~~COMBIN~~.~~jpg~~\|thumb~~\|Combined Chart on TEK4010~~]]		[[File:Graft Polymer.png\|thumb]]

	[[File:USSERV.jpg\|thumb\|US Services on TEK 4010]]		[[File:USSERV.jpg\|thumb\|US Services on TEK 4010]]

Mark: /* History of this Software */

2026-05-08T03:31:16Z

History of this Software

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	Saturn Calc was different, It would allow you to create any size (upto the 16384 max cells) but if you tried to save the spreadsheet, it refused unless you had less than 150 cells. The SATKEY trick did not fix Calc. Lee Gleason solved this one by dumping the entire task image to a .DMP file and looking for the 150 (226 octal) value, decoding instruction around it to see if there was a conditional branch associated with it, then use ZAP to make it an unconditional branch.		Saturn Calc was different, It would allow you to create any size (upto the 16384 max cells) but if you tried to save the spreadsheet, it refused unless you had less than 150 cells. The SATKEY trick did not fix Calc. Lee Gleason solved this one by dumping the entire task image to a .DMP file and looking for the 150 (226 octal) value, decoding instruction around it to see if there was a conditional branch associated with it, then use ZAP to make it an unconditional branch.

	So far everything looks good, ~~but there are~~ a ~~couple caveats~~ to ~~know about~~.		So far everything looks good, and I have been having fun exploring old .CAL, .GCL and .GDF files that I have not been able to look at for decades. I found some drawings of molecules, some technical slides we made before Power Point came along. One in particular had me in rolling on the floor. It was a flow chart that described a process to finding the solution to a problem. Who says scientists don't have a sense of humor?

	[[File:Problem.png\|thumb\|Problem Solving Flow Chart displayed on Tek4010]]		[[File:Problem.png\|thumb\|Problem Solving Flow Chart displayed on Tek4010]]

	- First, the RSX Saturn software doesn't understand named directories so you should be in a UIC based directory when you use it.		There are a couple caveats to know about when using Calc or Graph.

			- First, the RSX Saturn software doesn't understand named directories so you should be in a UIC (e.g. [10,3] ) based directory when you use it.
	- Second, there is an obscure bug that I have not been able to solve and don’t know if it was always there or it was somehow introduced by our hacks and zaps. It involves SUM or AVG calculations across a range when the range of cells when the input values are calculated.		- Second, there is an obscure bug that I have not been able to solve and don’t know if it was always there or it was somehow introduced by our hacks and zaps. It involves SUM or AVG calculations across a range when the range of cells when the input values are calculated.

	Saturn Graph is working very well. I can create a line, bar or pie chart either in SIG (Saturn Interactive Graphics) or from a Calc spreadsheet. Then it		Saturn Graph is working very well. I can create a line, bar or pie chart either in SIG (Saturn Interactive Graphics) or from a Calc spreadsheet. Then it can be displayed on a VT125, VT240, VT330 or VT340 (Regis) terminal. The VT340 mouse even works with the Saturn drawing program. Also, as mentioned earlier Rene Richarz's TEK4010 works very well as a plotting device to quickly view plots. A standard VT100 emulator can interact with the Saturn Graph and the TEK4010 window can display the results of your changes to the plot. Then when one is ready to make a hard copy, send it to a spooled HP7550 (HPGL) plotter or even a LA50 (sixel) printer. Some Laser Printers also understand HPGL/2 and should be able to render the plots as well. At the moment, I can print them on my Brother Laser Printer but I'm going to have to intercept the VECTOR.LST file before it gets spooled and change some settings in the initialization. Most Laser printers have a RAW TCP port 9100 that can be used to directly feed the HPGL via Johnny's TCP/IP stack on RSX11M+.
	can be displayed on a VT125, VT240, VT330 or VT340 (Regis) terminal. The VT340 mouse even works with the Saturn drawing program. Also, as mentioned earlier Rene Richarz's TEK4010 works very well as a plotting device to quickly view plots. A standard VT100 emulator can interact with the Saturn Graph and the TEK4010 window can display the results of your changes to the plot. Then when one is ready to make a hard copy, send it to a spooled HP7550 (HPGL) plotter or even a LA50 (sixel) printer.



	In addition to the people I mentioned above who assisted in the hacking effort, I'd also like to thanks Rene Richarz for creating an great ~~device~~ to display these plots on telnet sessions from Raspian, Windows or Mac OSX. I also want to thank Oscar Vermeulen and Jorge Hoppe for their work to create the PiDP-11/70 which has brought PDP-11 computing to a much wider audience. Lastly, but not least I want to thank Johnny Billquist for all of his work bringing RSX11M+ into the 21st century with TCP/IP, RPM and many other fantastic tools!		In addition to the people I mentioned above who assisted in the hacking effort, I'd also like to thanks Rene Richarz for creating an great Tektronix 4010 emulator to display these plots on telnet sessions from Raspian, Windows or Mac OSX. I also want to thank Oscar Vermeulen and Jorge Hoppe for their work to create the PiDP-11/70 which has brought PDP-11 computing to a much wider audience. Lastly, but not least I want to thank Johnny Billquist for all of his work bringing RSX11M+ into the 21st century with TCP/IP, RPM and many other fantastic tools!

	== Current Status ==		== Current Status ==

Mark: /* History of this Software */

2026-05-08T03:17:01Z

History of this Software

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	So far everything looks good, but there are a couple caveats to know about.		So far everything looks good, but there are a couple caveats to know about.

			[[File:Problem.png\|thumb\|Problem Solving Flow Chart displayed on Tek4010]]

	- First, the RSX Saturn software doesn't understand named directories so you should be in a UIC based directory when you use it.		- First, the RSX Saturn software doesn't understand named directories so you should be in a UIC based directory when you use it.
	- Second, there is an obscure bug that I have not been able to solve and don’t know if it was always there or it was somehow introduced by our hacks and zaps. It involves SUM or AVG calculations across a range when the range of cells when the input values are calculated.		- Second, there is an obscure bug that I have not been able to solve and don’t know if it was always there or it was somehow introduced by our hacks and zaps. It involves SUM or AVG calculations across a range when the range of cells when the input values are calculated.


	Saturn Graph is working very well. I can create a line, bar or pie chart either in SIG (Saturn Interactive Graphics) or from a Calc spreadsheet. Then it		Saturn Graph is working very well. I can create a line, bar or pie chart either in SIG (Saturn Interactive Graphics) or from a Calc spreadsheet. Then it
	can be displayed on a VT125, VT240, VT330 or VT340 (Regis) terminal. The VT340 mouse even works with the Saturn drawing program. Also, as mentioned earlier Rene Richarz's TEK4010 works very well as a plotting device to quickly view plots. A standard VT100 emulator can interact with the Saturn Graph and the TEK4010 window can display the results of your changes to the plot. Then when one is ready to make a hard copy, send it to a spooled HP7550 (HPGL) plotter or even a LA50 (sixel) printer.		can be displayed on a VT125, VT240, VT330 or VT340 (Regis) terminal. The VT340 mouse even works with the Saturn drawing program. Also, as mentioned earlier Rene Richarz's TEK4010 works very well as a plotting device to quickly view plots. A standard VT100 emulator can interact with the Saturn Graph and the TEK4010 window can display the results of your changes to the plot. Then when one is ready to make a hard copy, send it to a spooled HP7550 (HPGL) plotter or even a LA50 (sixel) printer.



	In addition to the people I mentioned above who assisted in the hacking effort, I'd also like to thanks Rene Richarz for creating an great device to display these plots on telnet sessions from Raspian, Windows or Mac OSX. I also want to thank Oscar Vermeulen and Jorge Hoppe for their work to create the PiDP-11/70 which has brought PDP-11 computing to a much wider audience. Lastly, but not least I want to thank Johnny Billquist for all of his work bringing RSX11M+ into the 21st century with TCP/IP, RPM and many other fantastic tools!		In addition to the people I mentioned above who assisted in the hacking effort, I'd also like to thanks Rene Richarz for creating an great device to display these plots on telnet sessions from Raspian, Windows or Mac OSX. I also want to thank Oscar Vermeulen and Jorge Hoppe for their work to create the PiDP-11/70 which has brought PDP-11 computing to a much wider audience. Lastly, but not least I want to thank Johnny Billquist for all of his work bringing RSX11M+ into the 21st century with TCP/IP, RPM and many other fantastic tools!

Mark at 19:35, 3 May 2026

2026-05-03T19:35:28Z

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			[[Category:Main]]
			[[Category:Saturn]]
			[[Category:Documentation]]
			[[Category:Downloads]]

	== Saturn Software ==		== Saturn Software ==

Mark: /* Current Status */

2026-05-03T17:49:03Z

Current Status

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	One of the Saturn tools is a database task, SDB.tsk It is missing from all the Saturn distributions I have found so far. If anyone finds a copy of it, please let me know. There are some other software archeologists working to recover the RT-11 / TSX version of Saturn Calc and WPS. It sounds like they have those two parts running under TSX.		One of the Saturn tools is a database task, SDB.tsk It is missing from all the Saturn distributions I have found so far. If anyone finds a copy of it, please let me know. There are some other software archeologists working to recover the RT-11 / TSX version of Saturn Calc and WPS. It sounds like they have those two parts running under TSX.
			The drawing program GCU.TSK had not been hacked/zapped correctly and that is now fixed. The updated GCU.DSK is available at RDP1::[DECNET]GCU.TSK It will be added to the RL01 disk image at this web site when I get back home on May 7, 2026.

Mark: /* Current Status */

2026-05-03T14:28:58Z

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	that can be downloaded with wget to a PiDP-11/70 or QBone. Then just unzip and attach the RL02 disk image to a rl device in simh.		that can be downloaded with wget to a PiDP-11/70 or QBone. Then just unzip and attach the RL02 disk image to a rl device in simh.

			One of the Saturn tools is a database task, SDB.tsk It is missing from all the Saturn distributions I have found so far. If anyone finds a copy of it, please let me know. There are some other software archeologists working to recover the RT-11 / TSX version of Saturn Calc and WPS. It sounds like they have those two parts running under TSX.

Mark: /* Current Status */

2026-04-27T14:04:10Z

Current Status

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	If you have an RSX system on HECnet, you can NFT the Saturn files from RDP1:: (30.11) them back to your system.		If you have an RSX system on HECnet, you can NFT the Saturn files from RDP1:: (30.11) them back to your system.

	>NFT =RDP1::\.\/LO		>NFT =RDP1::./LO

	I’ve also packaged everything in a RL02 zipped disk image at:		I’ve also packaged everything in a RL02 zipped disk image at:

Mark: /* Overview of Saturn Calc */

2026-04-27T14:02:24Z

Overview of Saturn Calc

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	Exit \[No\] ? Y		Exit \[No\] ? Y

	[[File:BALLISTIC.jpg\|thumb\|BALLISTIC.CAL in Calc]]		[[File:BALLISTIC.jpg\|thumb\|BALLISTIC.CAL screenshot from Saturn Calc]]
	/ S		/ S
	S-enter Storage menu (to save,recall,graph, etc.)		S-enter Storage menu (to save,recall,graph, etc.)

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	[[File:SIGDEV.jpg\|thumb \| Graphic Device Definition Screen]]		[[File:SIGDEV.jpg\|thumb \| Graphic Device Definition Screen]]

	[[File:~~COMBIN~~.~~jpg~~\|thumb~~\|Combined Chart on TEK4010~~]]		[[File:Graft Polymer.png\|thumb]]

	[[File:USSERV.jpg\|thumb\|US Services on TEK 4010]]		[[File:USSERV.jpg\|thumb\|US Services on TEK 4010]]